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Living on Borrowed Time

Living on Borrowed Time
By Jodi L. Severson

Albert Benjamin Skinner was born on May 13, 1919 in the small town of Cumberland, situated in Barron County, Wisconsin. Al was the third of seven children born to Marshall Otis and Alice (Fox) Skinner. I

It was springtime in the "Island City" located in scenic northwest Wisconsin when his mother, gave birth to him at their rural home located at 1065 First Avenue in the south part of town. "In those days, being born at home was the norm," Al explains, "because, hospitals were typically only located in large cities many miles away. Mother was lucky to have the help of Dr. Simon O. Lund and Minnie Nelson, a local midwife, during my delivery."

And it was lucky indeed, for Al because he was born a "blue baby." A lot of blue babies were, born in 1919 due to the flu epidemic. "I was born with a bluish tint to my skin due to a lack of oxygen during my delivery," Al reports. "Sometimes blue babies would be born with heart defects. Dr. Lund told my folks that he doubted I would live to be 21 years old. Well, here I sit-84 years old-and I always say that I've been living on borrowed time since I was 21!"

Al Skinner's military career began in much the same manner as most men of that day-he was drafted. "I got my draft notice in November, 1940," stated Al. "I remember putting it in a drawer and that was the last I thought of it till the day I was to report to Barron."

It was February 1941 and Al was driving a delivery truck for Dr. Pepper Sirianni Company when he was pulled over by the Barron County Sheriff's Department. "They said that I was being stopped for avoiding the draft! I had forgot all about reporting!" Al says with a hearty laugh. "So I went home, packed my clothes, and drove to Barron (WI). Next thing I knew, I was on my way to Milwaukee (WI) to enlist in the army with two of my friends, Fred Alfonse and Clifford Shortner."

When the three men arrived at Milwaukee, they were given physicals, sworn into service, and issued the standard Army gear. Then they were sent directly to Camp Grant, Illinois. It was a cold and rainy that dark, February night when Al and his friends arrived at Camp Grant. Exhausted from the long bus ride, they retreated to their tents to rest before the next phase of processing began early the next morning. The three friends were a long way from Cumberland, WI, but soon found out what just what a small world they lived in.

"At Camp Grant I was shocked to meet up with Percy Laking, my science teacher from high school. He was the one who had taught us how to make lead slugs when we were in school. Boy did we catch it for that stunt! He ended up getting fired as a teacher over that. I couldn't believe it. There he was, Percy Laking—a Brigadier General!"

General Laking asked his former students where they wanted to go to complete their basic training. Having the desire to escape the cold, snow-filled winters they had only known up to this point, and also wanting to make the most of their military life by "seeing the world," California was the logical answer. A short time later they were shipped to Camp Callan, California located in the hills near San Diego. They were assigned to the 155th Army Artillery Group. There, they completed their basic training, earning $21.00 per month. "By the time we paid for our laundry and PX tickets," Al recalled, "we didn't have much money left, but we still managed to go into San Diego once in a while."

After basic training, Al and his friends were shipped to Camp Roberts, California, to an infantry outfit. Camp Roberts was located near San Luis Obispo and San Miguel. After about four months, Alfonse and Shortner were shipped to Washington State, and Al was sent to Camp Cook near Santa Barbara, California just south of Camp Roberts.

"Camp Cook was a brand new campsite. There were no buildings or even a road into it," Al recalled, "so we had to actually build the camp." Cook was an armored division camp, and Al helped with the construction until the camp was completed. Then he was transferred to the motor pool.

"There was another kid there by the name of John Ferry. He was an Indian from Oklahoma. He had made it rich from oil wells found on Indian land. He was a real wonderful fellow, and we got along real well. Part of our job was directing traffic and doing maneuvers while riding motorcycles. We thought we had it made. After all, what could be more fun than riding motorcycles all day?"

Tragically, one night while they were riding, John hit the side of a tank and was killed. "That was enough for me," Al added sternly. "After John's death, I didn't want any more to do with motorcycles."

By that time, Al had achieved the rank of Technical Sergeant, and he was assigned to a unit that hauled material from the Mojave Desert up to Fort Lewis, Washington where his friends, Alfonse and Shortner, were stationed. "I saw them up there once," Al recalled with sadness in his voice, "and as it turned out, that was the last time I ever saw either of them."

Clifford Shortner was killed during the war while fighting in the Pacific Theatre, and Fred Alfonse died before he got back to Cumberland after the war. "They were good fellows-damn good fellows. They were my friends," Al added quietly. "We had a lot of fun. . . I sure miss them."

While at Camp Cook, Al had the chance to see his older brother, Herb. "He was a supervisor for American Bridge Company, and he was located near Redding, California. "When we were hauling supplies from the Mojave Desert to Washington, we went through Redding. I had some leave coming, so I spent some time with Herb and his wife, Goldie."

Herb's company was building a bridge across a ravine. "My god it was deep! It was really deep!" Al tells with excitement. "They were building a railroad track underneath and a car bridge above. Herb took me up onto the bridge, and asked if I wanted to walk out on it. I don't know what I was thinking, but I went along with him. I would swear the trusses were four feet wide. Maybe they weren't that wide, but I remember going out and looking down. Next thing I knew I went down to my hands and knees and was holding onto the edge for dear life! I was out pretty far and let me tell you, I was scared to death I was going to fall off! Thank God Herb came out and got me turned me around. Of course, he had to kick my hands to get me to break loose my grip from the truss," Al chuckles, able to laugh now from the safety of his own kitchen, as he recounts the terrifying incident. "Herb held onto me and had to lead me off that bridge every step of the way. I remember thinking what a job he had to have to do this sort of thing every day. He must of had nerves of steel. But you know, some time later Herb did fall from that bridge. He went through two safety nets before he was finally stopped! Thank God, he didn't get hurt, but that fall bothered him the rest of his life."

Back at Camp Cook, Al worked hard and diligently, and eventually he earned the rank of Master Sergeant and was offered the chance to go to Officer's Training School. He hesitated because Master Sergeants made more money than a second lieutenant, and he was close to being eligible for discharge. But all that changed on December 7, 1941 when Pearl Harbor was attacked by Japan.

"When we were drafted there was this popular song that went `be home in a year, little darling,' and that was my plan-go in, do my service, and get out. But when we entered the war after Pearl Harbor I knew I wasn't going home anytime soon, so I decided to go to Officer's Training School."

Al was sent to Fort Lee, Virginia to attend Quartermaster Officer's Training School. "I stayed there for quite a while and after finishing school I became the Adjutant to the Colonel at Camp Lee. Well, it ended up that we got into it over a requirement that every man being trained to shoot had to have an assistant standing next to him wearing a white armband. Only problem was, we didn't have any white armbands. Leave it to the army to come up with a regulation and then not provide the necessary equipment to do the job. So I had the men cut up sheets and use them instead."

Some would have called Al's solution quick thinking and a good way to improvise, but the Colonel at Camp Lee disagreed. As a result, Al was sent to Camp Schnagel, Pennsylvania to prepare to go overseas. Six weeks later he found himself on the New Jersey shore at the port of departure for troops preparing to embark to fight the war in Europe.

With the uncertainty of fighting a war on foreign soil lying ahead, Al's innate desire to seize every opportunity to enjoy life soon got the best of him. "Since we weren't going to leave for three days, me and three buddies went over the fence!" The AWOL fugitives made their way to New York City where the 23 year- old boy from rural northwest Wisconsin came face to face with some of the worlds tallest buildings in one of the world's largest and busiest cities.

"We went up in one of those tall buildings and had a bottle of Coke. It cost me $1.25 for a small bottle! Why, back home a six ounce bottle of Coke cost five cents, and I knew from driving truck for Sirianni's that it cost between three and four cents to make a case of soda pop and we sold each case for 80 cents. A buck twenty-five for a Coke! I couldn't believe it!" That was the only time Al was ever in New York, yet it was one adventure he never forgot. The `Big Apple' just has that effect on people.

Soon after they returned to New Jersey, the men were loaded onto the luxury liner, the Queen Elizabeth, for the next part of their journey. Al reports that about 14-15,000 soldiers boarded the ship bound for Scotland. The dangerous sea voyage took about four and half days. "I never doubted that we'd make it through," states Al. "That ship was so fast and so capable of taking evasive action, I don't think a Japanese torpedo would ever have been able to catch it. I remember the ship listing quickly from right to left as it snaked its way across the ocean. You'd be eating your meal and your tray would skirt all over the table top in the process! Now that was a challenge let me tell you!"

The ship of soldiers safely arrived in Scotland where they remained for about three days while the ship unloaded, and then they were transported to Liverpool, England where he was assigned as Adjutant to a man named Colonel Binger. "Colonel Binger was from Minnesota," Al notes, "and I later learned that he was the personnel manager for 3M Company." This acquaintance would prove to be an important one for Al following the war, as Colonel Binger eventually hired him to work at 3-M's Cumberland plant, where Al worked for over 30 years.

Al stayed in Liverpool until it was determined that the Allies were going to make a push into Europe. "I was sent with a company of men down to Milverton, England, which was about 100 miles from London. It was a small town; I would say the size of Turtle Lake (WI). We stayed in some old homes in the town, and there were about four pubs and a bunch of Quonset huts located a little way down below the church where the enlisted men stayed."

In May 1944 Al's unit was sent to Dartmouth, which was a base for the English Navy. "That's where we learned all about the LSTs, LCIs, and the big Rhino Ferries," he explained. "The LST is a landing craft for tanks, and after it was unloaded during an offensive, it was used as hospital space. The LCI is an infantry landing craft. The Rhinos were 42ft by 176 ft chunks of steel welded together, and powered by big outboard motors. They moved through the water very slowly, and during the invasion, we were to use them as docks so we wouldn't have to go into the water."

But before the invasion could take place the soldiers had to be trained. "We had some practice runs in the English Channel. We even got fired on one time by the Germans. Before the Allies could destroy the German attack boat, it managed to sink a couple of LSTs. "Man, did our big guns blow that German boat out of the water!"

Thankfully, no one was lost during that battle, but the attack during their maneuvers was just a hint of what lay ahead for the Allies set to land in Normandy, France. Al's engineering unit, TQM for the 3892 Quartermaster Truck Company, which was attached to the First U.S. Infantry Division for the assault on Continental Europe, was charged with the task of removing the railroad irons that were implanted along the shoreline at Omaha Beach so the boats could be brought in during the landing without ripping the bottoms out of them. They also had to lay out a plan to unload all of the equipment onto the shoreline and prepare the beach for the invasion by the Army Rangers.

5 JUNE 1944: D -MINUS 8 HOURS. . .

"Finally, things were set up and the unit I was assigned to was ordered to Omaha Beach in France. We landed D minus eight hours, meaning we landed eight hours before the main force." I was Adjutant to and under the command of Major John Richard. Turns out he was from Janesville, Wisconsin. He took a keen interest in me right away when he heard we were from the same state. We got to know each other pretty well after that. I remember him telling me about his young wife and that she had just given birth to their son. He had only seen his son's picture, though. He sure couldn't wait to get home to hold him in his arms for the first time."

Al's unit worked hard, and his skill and determination to accomplish the task at hand was recorded in the following except from a Memo dated 5 August 1944 recommending his "Battlefield Promotion."

(Due to 2nd Lt. Albert B. Skinner's efforts) ". . . loading space was so well planned that he was able to load two vehicles more than the original plan. The loading detail was so well organized that he accomplished the loading of 82 vehicles in less than three hours. On the eve of D-Day, Lt. Skinner demonstrated unusual leadership and courage in the face of hostile activity. About dusk, while in the process of loading the Rhino Barge with vehicles from the LST, enemy aircraft began an attack on ships in the Omaha Harbor. During the frequent strafing attack, Lt. Skinner continued the uninterrupted loading with the determination to get the barge loaded and ashore. Lt. Skinner assumed the duties of Unit TQM and executed them in an excellent manner with the ability equivalent to that of a 1st Lieutenant or higher grade."

"About dusk on the 8 June 1944, Lt. Skinner was assigned the mission to transport gasoline from the beach to the First US Infantry Division Quartermaster. While on the beach with his platoon, they were subjected to repeated enemy strafing. In spite of the hazardous duty, Lt. Skinner demonstrated unusual leadership and completed loading of the vehicles with essential gasoline and transported the maximum amount of gallons to the First Division Quartermaster."

What this memo fails to note, however, are some of the details of the events surrounding the above incidents that make Al's accomplishments that much more remarkable.

"We were told that no one would be there when we got to Omaha, and that the Germans didn't know we were coming, "Al recalls. "We got there shortly after midnight and about an hour or two later, the Germans stumbled upon us and started shooting. They were out on maneuvers and so they only had dumb-dumb (wooden) bullets. I got hit in the left leg, and it felt like a hundred slivers going in all directions!" Al remembers as he instinctively reaches down and rubs the spot on his left leg where he was wounded nearly 60 years earlier. "You know, slivers of wood kept coming out of my leg for years after I was shot. It reminded me of the time got that electrical shock and fell off the pickle sorting table when I was helping dad, and spent months picking slivers of fir wood out of my behind!"

Even though he was wounded Al stayed with his unit and it didn't take long for the Germans to reload with live ammunition and begin their deadly assault on the Allies. Taking their position in "pillboxes" in the Atlantic Wall, a fortification that the Germans had built overlooking the beachhead, the Germans were relentless in their attack on the Allies making their way across the beach below. "I remember looking at the big, tall cliff as we were going into Omaha Beach and wondering, `How in the hell are we going to take that!' The Germans had pretty good-sized artillery guns which I believe were 99's." Al explains. "They were about the size of our 155's. They were so accurate that if they missed you the first time, they would surely get you the second time. At least that's the way we felt, because they were doing a lot of damage."

Next to the German pillboxes were some French homes. Snipers were hiding in the upper rooms of these homes, firing on the soldiers below. "People were firing at us from those homes and that's . . . that's when I shot my first person." It took Al a long time to explain the circumstances around this incident. He was deeply affected by the event and reluctant to talk about it. "There was this sniper in an upper window. He had taken out four or five of my men. We all knew something had to be done, but the others sort of hesitated. I kept remembering my training_`kill or be killed' `kill or be killed!' Those words kept going through my head. It was him or me, and I wasn't going to be killed, so I took aim and fired. I remember seeing the body tumble out of the open window and fall dead to the ground below."

As Al and the rest of his unit made their way up to the home where the sniper, just moments before, had been firing upon them, he soon learned the horrors of war first hand. "When we got to the body, I seen. . . I realized. . . I had shot a woman—the first person I killed was a woman. That upset me for quite awhile. Not so much at first because when you're in war, like I said it was kill or be killed and boy, we weren't going to be killed if we could help it. But later on, when things quieted down . . . well, it's something that just sticks with a man, you know?"

The next morning when the invasion started, the LCIs came in full force with the Army infantry. "I remember those kids coming off of the landing ramps and getting shot. I can still see the floating bodies. They finally made it onto shore, then the tanks started landing from the LSTs. They dropped into the water and had trouble getting to shore, but finally we got the Rhinos I mentioned attached to the LST. And I'm not talking about one LST_we had maybe ten coming in to be attached to our Rhinos. Then we were able to unload the tanks and were doing a really good job."

Al recalls probably the toughest part of the unloading. "We had to move bodies out of the way of the tanks so we didn't run over them. You might say, `what's the difference they were dead anyway?' But you have to have respect for your fellow man whether he's alive or dead. We couldn't ignore them, so we would pull them to the side. We finally got the tanks landed, and then we had a chance to protect ourselves."

"But we weren't finished once the beach was landed. It was kind of a mess because the landing force got off to a poor start. The United States Navy was really a godsend when they sent the artillery shells in." In the meantime, the Army Rangers came into action. "The rangers took their ropes and grappling hooks and were climbing up the big cliff I was telling you about. Some guys got up so far and then they would get shot and fall down to the beach below. But there was always another man behind him on the rope who kept going till they reached the top. And by God, they took that cliff! Yes, sir! They took that cliff." As the invasion continued, Al's unit dug fox holes along the beach and began firing upon the enemy that, up to this point, seemed to have advantage over the Allies. As the number of casualties mounted, Al's unit began to move inland, and he soon found himself fighting next to Major Richard. "For a little while there was a break in the fighting," Al remembered. "I smoked a pipe back then and Major Richard smoked cigarettes. We both lit up, and then suddenly, he was hit with an artillery shell. It went right through him," Al described the assault by placing both of his hands over his stomach, "but it didn't explode. I was right next to him. Had it exploded, you and I wouldn't be talking today."

Major Richard never made it back to Janesville, WI to the welcoming embrace of his young bride. He never had the opportunity to cradle his son in his arms as an infant, or hoist him on his shoulders to watch a parade. In an instant, the chance to teach his son to throw a baseball or ride a bike was gone forever. He died there on the beach fighting for freedom. "That's the way war is," Al reasons, "one minute you're standing next to your friend and the next second he's dead. There's no rhyme or reason to it. It could have just as easily been me. I don't know why God took him and not me-that's just the way it was-I really can't explain it. I was just damn lucky to survive it all."

Living On Borrowed Time - Part I

An excerpt from the memoirs of Albert B. Skinner

By Jodi L. Severson

Recalling the horrors he witnessed first hand during those brutal days of combat during the Normandy Invasion, Al related the following: “If the people of the world could have seen that beach as we all saw it; the waters red from the blood of all those young men shot to death, bodies floating face down in the tide or strewn all over the beach; if people saw that, I don’t think there would ever be another war.” Of the 128 men in Al’s unit that landed on Omaha Beach on June 5, 1944, only 28 survived. Once again, Al had cheated death.

“I remember a few days after Major Richard got killed,” added Al, “his sister found me. She was a nurse. She asked if I knew where her brother was, and I had to be the one to tell her he was dead. I showed her where he was buried and she went up on the hill and found him.” A few months later, Al again met up with Major Richards sister in Paris. “She thanked me for showing her where to find her brother. We talked a bit about him and how tragic his death was for his young family. She was a heck of a nice woman.”

After the beach landing, Al’s unit made its way to a town called Dereishmier, in the Colleville area of France. “Our Navy ships started sending in rockets and blew the town practically apart. You couldn’t believe the noise they made! I remember going into a tavern, and there was a bunch of German soldiers sitting at the bar. We almost started shooting, but then we realized they were already dead. Someone went up to them and shoved the soldier at the end of the bar, and they all fell over like bowling pins! There wasn’t a mark on them. They were killed from the concussion of the shells exploding all around them.”

As Al’s unit made their way through the bombed out town, they came upon a church that was still standing. “I went in and found this little porcelain statute of the Virgin Mary. I picked it up and put it into my pocket, and as we walked out, a kid by the name of Sergeant Catlin said, Get out now cause I’m going to take her down! Catlin pulled the detonator and the church went up in the air. Puff! and it was gone. But it had to be taken down,” Al explained, “because it served as an observation point the Germans could use to zero in on us. We couldn’t take any chances. We had to do what we were trained to do,” he adds matter-o-factly. “That’s just the way it is when you’re in a war. You do what needs doing to survive.”

BATTLE OF THE BULGE. . .

From Dereishmier, Al’s company went to St. Lo and then to Brussels and other cities until they reached the Siegfried Line, which was near Bastogne. “I’ll never forget the Siegfried Line because it looked like a giant wall. There was one floor after another down in the ground. Some of them were down four or five basements deep. We had to take one at a time. We used to put TNT on the doors and blow them. Our big guns could blow them out at the top, but there would still be something below. Once in a while it seemed like a basketball game when someone would call time out. We would be standing on one side and the Germans on the other. We would yell at each other. A lot of them could speak English. Then all of a sudden, the time out would end, and they would go back to shooting at us and we would shoot at them.

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“When we took over Aachen, there was nobody there. We found silverware, watches, rings, and other things in abandoned stores. We all loaded our trucks with what we found. I had taken a beautiful set of silverware. But it wasn’t long before we got to Malmedy and had to burn our trucks so the Germans couldn’t use them. And all that stuff was burned. The only thing that survived was the little porcelain statute of Mary I kept in my pocket. I still have it to this day.

“The city of Bastogne, located in southeastern Belgium in Ardennes, was a relatively small market town near a railroad junction, but it was a strategic position desired by both the Germans and the Americans. The Allies managed to reach this pivotal destination first and soon occupied Bastogne. But the Germans were not far behind. We made our way through Bastogne to the opposite side of the city which was now surrounded by the Germans. It was like a prison,” described Al.

“Although the Allies occupied the city, it was surrounded so supply trucks could not penetrate the German lines. The only way to receive needed supplies was through air drops, but it was late December, 1944, and heavy fog and inclement weather grounded the Allied planes. The Germans Panzer Division was inflicting heavy damage on the town. On December 22, 1944, the Germans sent a message to General Anthony C. McAuliffe, the acting commander of the 101 First Airborne Division holed up in Bastogne, asking for them to surrender. That’s when McAuliffe replied, ‘Nuts!’” Al exclaimed loudly as he pounded his fist on the table. “This one word reply which was translated to the German Commander as “go to hell!,” became one of the most famous quotes of the war.

“Hell, by that time, we just about had the war won and McAuliffe said there was no way we’d surrender. The Allies survived the best that they could till the weather cleared. Well, just when we thought we were going to lose it all,” Al remembers, “the sun came out and our airplanes took care of them Germans but good!”

Al describes General Omar Bradley as a fine gentleman. “He may have been one of the smartest generals we had. But the most remembered general was George Patton. He’s the one that said, ‘We’ve got to do this through hell or high water!’” Al commented that a popular phrase was, “blood and guts. Yah! Our blood and his guts!” “That’s the way a lot of us really felt.

“I was in Bastogne about four days before the Battle of the Bulge took place. I remember the fair grounds and the town, and how the people, after they were liberated, took some of the women and cut their hair off as punishment for flirting with the German soldiers.

“During the Bulge we had to fall back. It was almost like running away. We retreated until a West Point Colonel said, ‘Well, this is it, fellows. The first guy who retreats any further, were going to shoot, so you might as well stay up there on the line.’ The Allied forces held the line and started moving forward. As they made their way from Bastogne to Malmedy where the battle was really raging, German infiltration into the Allied lines became a problem. We came upon a large infiltration of German soldiers dressed in American uniforms,” Al related. “I said to the sergeant, “Don’t let any of them through, because it’s going to hurt somebody.”

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“Don’t worry about it, the Sergeant replied.” Al stood there and watched as the German infiltrators dressed in American uniforms were questioned by the Sergeant. “Lots of the questions were goofy, like, Who won the World Series in 1940? You’d be surprised. These guys were smarter than me! All of a sudden the Sergeant and his men opened fire and shot every one of those impostors! I thought, Oh my god, what a mess were in now. But the Sergeant said, “Don’t worry, Lieutenant, they’re all Germans, and I can prove it.” He had asked them to recite the Constitution of the United States, and the guy started reciting it word for word! The Sergeant pointed out, “Nobody in this country of ours, no soldier or other person, could recite that because they don’t know it!” So he figured they were Germans, and he was right.

“The Allies had to be on guard for constant German attempts to infiltrate their lines. There were also a lot of booby traps we had to watch out for. I’ll tell you, you know it was worth fighting for, to get it over. And I don’t regret my part in it, but I sure wouldn’t want to go again. No, sir. We used to turn the prisoners over to a group that was supposed to take care of them. But we always suspected that when they got down the road a hundred yards or so, they’d be shot. It was just the same with the Germans. They’d treat our prisoners the same. During the winter months, supplies were short enough for the troops, and they just weren’t equipped to care for prisoners as well. Just another ugly fact of war.”

The Battle of the Bulge officially ended on January 28, 1945, with the both sides suffering heavy losses both through casualties and equipment. More than one million men fought in this battle including some 600,000 Germans, 500,000 Americans, and 55,000 British. 19,000 U.S. soldiers were killed and 62,000 were wounded; 1,200 British were wounded and 200 killed; and 100,000 Germans were killed, wounded, or captured.

From Belgium, Al headed back to France. “When we came back to Cologne, I saw a big church and the other buildings that were miraculously spared by the war. It was a beautiful church. The people were so grateful to be liberated that they gave us perfume and champagne. They couldn’t do enough for us.”

Smiling, Al recalls one incident in Paris that started out fun, but took a slight turn. “Paris was a beautiful city. I remember going down into a basement in this one building because it was supposed to have champagne in it. We got the champagne, but on the way out we got shot at! I remember it well because I thought this was one time when maybe we were playing around a little too much.”

 

As Al marched from St. Lo toward the Rhine River he saw a familiar face. “I saw a guy standing there who looked like my brother, Marshall. I went over, and sure enough it was! I didn’t even know he was in the service. Last I had heard he was going to school at Indiana University on some kind of a government course. But they closed it down and sent all those guys to Europe. Some men shipped over at that time didn’t really know what it was all about. They didn’t have the proper military training. Their guns weren’t even cleaned! They were still full of cosmolene. Somebody had made a mistake.”

Al went to his C.O. and got permission for Marshall to eat supper with him. Marshall took his rifle along with him and came down to Al’s unit and they ate together. “I looked at his rifle and said, my god, don’t you clean your gun? Marshall replied, I don’t know how to clean it.” Al knew the importance of getting his brothers gun cleaned and he asked his Sergeant if he could get someone to clean it and he’d pay him. Don’t worry, Lieutenant, we’ll get it done, the Sergeant replied. And he did.

Marshall was a radio technician whose job was to go ahead of the front line and set up communications. Al accompanied him back to his company, hugged his brother, and with a firm pat on his shoulder he headed back to his own unit. That was the last time he ever saw his brother alive. Two days later Marshall was hit by friendly fire when the U.S. Army Air Corps came over and bombed short of their mark. He was one of the thousands who were either killed or wounded during that campaign.

“I found out about the incident from his C.O. He told me by radio that my brother was hit, and they were taking him to a hospital in Cherbourg. I chased him all the way from Europe to the port of Cherbourg, where I found out he had been taken to England. Marshall died there 10 days later. I found out he had died when my folks wrote me a letter telling me Marshall had been killed. It shook me,” Al said very quietly, “it shook me, bad.”

After the war, Al was asked to testify before the United States Senate in Washington, D.C. about the way untrained soldiers, like his brother, Marshall, were sent to fight in Europe without proper training. “Sending those kids over there without the most basic of training was just plain wrong and it cost my brother his life.” They ended up blaming some major and a young staff sergeant for the incident without involving the higher-ups.

“War is hell,” Al repeats the familiar phrase we’ve all heard. But after listening to him relate with such emotion, the horrors of war that he experienced first-hand in WWII, somehow this cliche takes on a clearer image. “So many things happened to me there that are really hard to explain. I want you to know that I did serve, I would have never thought of not going, it was my duty. But I sure wouldn’t want to go again. There are a lot of things we (veterans) don’t care to talk about, but I have in this case. Its not my intent to glorify war or tout off a list of heroics. I want you understand the truth about what war is really like. Its not always like you see in the movies. Its about standing next to a friend one minute and the seeing him killed in front of you the next. Its about wanting nothing more than to go home and hug your wife or hold your child in your arms, and in an instant those simple things we all take for granted from the safety of our homes is gone. Its about hugging your brother, not knowing that it will be for the last time, and wishing you could have been there to look out for him. I guess what I want is for my grandchildren and the people who may read this to realize that war is hell. Nothing more and nothing less, and that’s the way it will always be. And its my wish for you, my children, grandchildren, and so on down the line, that you do your part to love and protect your country when necessary, but also to learn from the past and perhaps you all can work towards creating a world without wars. Where peace is the goal, not death and destruction. And in between, remember to look out for your brother or sister whenever you can. Never miss an opportunity to hug your spouse or cradle your child in your arms. And remember to thank God for each and every day he gives you, for we are all living on borrowed time.”

Albert Skinner returned home from the war, married Helen Ricci on April 2, 1947, and eventually settled back in their hometown of Cumberland, WI. There they raised three sons. Al was employed at the 3-M Plant in Cumberland as a production supervisor for over 30 years. In 1958 he threw his hat into the political arena and was elected mayor of Cumberland, WI, a position he held for 28 years winning every mayoral election in which he ran. His political service also included long running terms on the Barron County Board of Supervisors, the State Pension Board, Utilities Commission, and local hospital Board. July 14, 1996 was proclaimed Al Skinner Appreciation Day in which the City of Cumberland and the State of Wisconsin honored Al for his dedicated political service career that ultimately spanned nearly 50 years. Decorated veteran of WWII, devoted father and husband, and distinguished politician; for a man who has been living on borrowed time since the age of 21, he's certainly making the most of it.

Photo: USS Shaw (DD-373) explodes during the second Japanese attack wave

Interview with Bunny Wayne Chambers About his World War II experiences
Born April 24, 1915 De Leon, Texas
Conversation exactly as told by Bunny Wayne Chambers to Rusty Macon Weber on October 19, 2003

Now let me ask you this. There's a lot of side things, should I tell all of those? There are a lot of side things that are unusual, and nobody else had one exactly like I had.

At the, well, I probably need to tell that, because to me, that's the most important thing that happened to me because I was teaching school.

I had started my fifth year of teaching, and my brother and a cousin came to where I was teaching on the 14th of September 1940 and wanted me to go with them to Dallas and join the Navy Reserves.

Now the reason why, and I'm telling you this, is that all three of us had signed our draft papers and had our physicals, and we were eligible for the Army draft.

None of us were married, so they came and wanted me to go with them on Saturday the 15th to join up. They had a hard time convincing me, but I gave in, and the next morning we went and signed up.

And the last thing the commander asked if anybody had any questions and I said, "I do."
I asked, "Do you think they will call me into the service anytime in the near future?"
And the commander said, "No. Go back to your teaching and forget about it."
I went back, and one month to the day I got my orders.
Now, they got theirs fifteen months later.

But, I got mine one month, and then they, now this is what I'm wondering.
I went to school, and I went to school aboard the Battleship New York at Norfolk, Virginia, then I went to school aboard the Battleship Illinois at New York.
I think all of that need not even be there, but I was commissioned an Ensign the sixth of June in nineteen hundred and forty one.

Now, my life was a mess from beginning to the end. Another boy and I, we had met and we were always together, and when I was commissioned, he and I were sent aboard a Navy transport called the Haywood. It was in San Diego, and we were supposed to report the 1st day of July in 1941.

We went there and reported in to the commander at the base at eight o'clock, and he said, "Well boys, the Haywood is not in port." He says, "We don't know what has happened to it, and we don't know when it will be here, but you both report to my office every morning at eight o'clock until the ship comes in."

So we did every morning. The first morning, "He says no it's not here," the second morning, "No," the third, "No," the forth, "No." Then on the forth morning he says, "No, but the Navy has changed both of your orders." "Chambers he said, you are supposed to go aboard the destroyer Henley, and Joseph (Childs), you are to go aboard the destroyer Jarvis, and both ships are in Pearl Harbor _ now I'm just asking this, this probably needs to go in there. He says, "I'll put you both on a transport and send you to Pearl Harbor."

And we reported in on the 15th of July of nineteen and forty-one. We reported, and that's when I reported aboard the Henley, and then I was there, of course I was _ now the important thing is about my brother. He was called fifteen months after I got mine, and I had a cousin by the name of M. T., and they came there where I was and wanted me to sign up.

On December 1st, nineteen forty-one, I had a letter from my brother saying that he had finally been called into the Navy and he says there putting me in Naval Intelligence, He says, I'm being put on one floor of the Alexander Young, our offices are on one floor of the Alexander Young building in downtown Honolulu.

He says, now I'll be there sometime the first week of December nineteen forty _ one. And he says, When you come into port on Saturday, come down and we'll have the weekend together.

We came in at eight o'clock that morning, and at twelve o'clock, I went down and met my brother. We had a wonderful day _ twelve hours. He wanted me to go and spend the night with him, and I told him, no, I'll go back to my ship and I'd see him the next morning at nine o'clock.

Then the next morning at nine o'clock _ now, this is an interesting thing that happened. The next morning at twenty minutes before eight o'clock, general alarm sounded inside my ship. I dressed immediately, and my job was in the engine room. Just as I walked out of the room, the quartermaster of the days duty came running through the ship saying "I made a mistake. I should have pressed the button to call the officer, but I pushed the button that sounded the general alarm."

Now this happened just before eight o'clock, so I turned around and went to my room and went to bed. Just as I was lying down, the general alarm went off the second time.

You know what I did, I said, "That sucker's done the same thing again. I'm going to get that sleep." But no more than that thought ran through my mind than that same quartermaster came running through the ship saying Japanese were attacking Pearl Harbor.

That was December seventh nineteen forty one

To me, that was one of the most unusual things that happened the whole thing. And let me tell you this. Now there's not but, every weekend at noon, seventy five percent of the crew was given weekend liberty. Of course that meant that that morning there was only twenty five percent of the crew. Most every officer was ashore except the one's that had the duty.

I remember the guys name, it was Lt. Flack, and when he, that morning when that sounded, he went to the bridge and I went to the engine room, and he called me and says, "Fire up the boiler, we're going to get out of Pearl Harbor."

We did, we fired `em up, and we got underway in twenty minutes. Now that's unusual.

We got under way _ we didn't take down and disconnect, we just jerked trough from our anchor and headed for that - We had been under way for one minute until they announced over the spout _ now me, all my experiences, I don't get to see anything, you know, cause where I am, I'm down in the engine room. But they called me, and when we got underway and told me bout this, and so that destroyer dropped his bombs, all of them missed, and we got by that, and then we started on to go out of the harbor.

And one minute later, they spotted one of those little two men submarines. I don't know if you remember about those, there were many of those in the harbor, and they spotted one of those and we dropped our depth charges on it _ I don't know if we sunk it, but when we did, we left and went out of the port.

Oh, I didn't tell you. Do you know how many days it was before any orders were issued to any ship? It was Wednesday at noon before any orders _ I'm just putting that in right now.

Sunday to Wednesday, no orders.

Now we got out of port and we said, "Well where we going?" so we decided we were going to go to Waikiki Beach down at Honolulu _ the famous beach. And we did, and we steamed backwards and forwards, and we did that until just before noon, and we saw two men signaling us from the beach, and we said, "Who are those men?"

And finally they recognized them and they was our Captain and Executive Officer. It was that long before they were notified. You see, they owned their homes, and it was four hours before they ever knew that Pearl Harbor had happened.

But they had gone to Pearl Harbor to get the ship and they told them that it was down at Waikiki Beach. And they came onboard, so that was one of the best things that happened to us. We steamed back and forth, and at five o'clock that afternoon, we went back into Pearl Harbor, and picked up the rest of the crew.

Now this was an experience. So we picked `em up, and now we got all our crew and everybody. Now that's still on the seventh, and it's, oh, about six o'clock that afternoon. The Captain called me and says, I have already talked with the keeper of the stores, ship's stores, and the head of the galley, and I want you to take them and go to the ship's store and get all of the supplies we need.

Of course he knew we'd be leaving. So we did. We left and got them and came back, and when we got to where the ship was, the ship wasn't there. So we asked the ship right by and he said when they saw one of those little two men subs, they left and went to sea.

Well, there we were loaded with all those stores, and this whole mess in Pearl Harbor. And we said, "What are we going to do with them?" So, somebody said, "Let's just find a ship."

Now, I'm going to tell you this, now that was the most hardest things, cause after all of this uprising, and all the ships that had been hit _ well, not all of them, but so many had been hit and were on fire and everything, and here we were in this little canoe all in the middle of this, but you know, we never got a scratch.

So we took the supplies, and we said we're going to give them to somebody. The first ship we stopped at, there were three carriers that came in, and the first carrier we stopped at, they said they'd be glad to take them, so they took them.

Then we said, "Now where are we going to go?" Well, we went to ships landing. What ships landing is, when any ship comes into Pearl, they go to ships landing and get transportation throughout the whole island.

Well, we tied up, and that's where we spent that night. We did that, and our ship _ now we had a loud speaker that gave us good information, and about ten o'clock, it told us that our ship had returned. We went back and got on board, and for us, everything was just smooth, and we got our orders to go to San Francisco and then back to the war again. Now is that too much? That covered two days.

I went in the fifteenth of July in nineteen and forth-one, and I got home the twentieth of December nineteenth forth-five, and I got one ten day leave in that whole time. I was at sea all that time, other than that ten days.

Now I changed from the destroyer to a battleship to a heavy cruiser. Two of them I went back to the States, one of them I went to Pungent Sound, and the other one I went to New York, but just as soon as we got there, I went to a new ship and we went back to sea.

The destroyer was the Henley, the battleship was the Tennessee. Now there's a story behind that.

The Tennessee was one of the ships that was heavily damaged at Pearl Harbor. Right after that, they took it to Pungent Sound, in Seattle, and one year later they had repaired it, and improved it, and I was sent to there, and got on it, and we left and took it on its trial run and took it up to Alaska, and on over to Russia, and then got orders to go from there to the South Pacific and re-take all the islands that the Japanese had settled on in the Pacific.

Now that was our duty on - oh, I forgot to tell you that on the destroyer we went to Guadalcanal _ that's the first island we went to after we left Pearl Harbor that day, and ah, that was south of the Philippines and just west of Australia. It was a strategic island because it put us in such a position that it gave us a good place to work, but it was one of the most difficult things that happened because being so close to the Philippines, every day we were attacked by Japanese bombers from the Philippines. We were at that island for one year, but finally succeeded, and everything got by.

While we were there, the first thing that happened was the Blue _ now the four destroyers were the Blue, the Henley, the Helm and the Jarvis. We were the four that always worked together as a group. And our first order after Pearl Harbor was to go there and help when the Marines landed at Guadalcanal, we was to be there and the squadron was to remain there just to be a guard there just for the Marine base there. And that was our job there. Course, the whole channel there was covered in ships, and battleships were in and out, but we stayed there.

Now, our first casualty was the Blue. The Blue and the Henley, the one I was on, was sent to go to sea because a transport from the United States that was coming to this island bringing supplies and we were to meet it to escort it in, and just as we got to the straits a torpedo hit the Blue in the stern and just blew the stern off, and of course, it was out of commission, but fortunately, only nine men lost their lives.

But, it happened at three o'clock in the morning, and of course, the admiral came in and told us, our ship, to stay with the Blue til sunup. But he told the supply ship, "I think you can make it on to where the Marines are. You go ahead." And they did, and they made it. And we stayed until sunup, and then the admiral told us, take all the men aboard your ship, then you tow the Blue to the open sea and fire a torpedo at the Blue and sink it. He did this for fear that the Japanese might capture the ship.

Now the Japanese were pretty much in control of the Pacific at that time. So we took the men and towed the ship to the open sea and fired the torpedo. And we took the survivors to a little island just west of Australia and came back. That was the first destroyer.

The second, we got word that there were forty twin motored _ looked like our B 17 _ Japanese planes _ they noticed that there were forty of them coming to Guadalcanal to be ready for them. And they came and attacked, and in the attack that morning, the Jarvis was hit. It was hit in the bow of the ship, but it could still make ten knots. But its effectiveness was all gone.

The Captain of the Jarvis requested of the admiral to let him take it to the same island. But he said it was too dangerous, and I will not give you permission. Now this will tell you how a man acts. He kept asking, and on the forth day, he convinced the admiral to let him go. But the admiral told him. "All right, I'll give you permission, but you will be by yourself, no help, but you can go."

I'll never forget it when I watched it go around Guadalcanal. I was probably the last American to see that ship. But no one knew that though. Ten days, we never heard a word from that. And they assumed that it was sunk. And on the fourteenth day, they said it was sunk, but they didn't know from what. What sunk it.

Now this is a very interesting story. The closets friend that I had, this boy I was telling you about, he was on this ship, and of course I had visited his parents in Los Angeles before the war and everything and they got me to write a letter to his people, and I did, but they did not know where, but let me add you this _ jump to the end of the war, and they had us go through the Japanese logs to see if we could find out where the ship went down. And we did. We found out who, and it was planes from a carrier and where it went down. Now back then, of course the boy was killed, no survivors on this ship. The Navy did then after the war notify the family that they knew where their son went down.

That first year was one of the worst years I've guess I've had. Just let me quickly say, the next thing that happened to us was the Neosho and the Sims. We got from the admiral, it got hit by torpedoes.

The Neosho was a tanker, and the Sims was the destroyer escort. It got hit and sunk there at Guadalcanal, and our ship got orders to go to it and take all of the survivors aboard our ship. We did, and when we got there, the destroyer had gone down immediately. A few men from the destroyer, the Sims, made it to the tanker. And the tanker was listing. If it had listed three more degrees, it would have turned over and would have sunk, which would have been a tragedy for that area. But, we took the men, and we towed it out to sea and sunk it. That was the next thing.

Now while we were doing that though, they had the Coral Sea battle. So we missed the Coral Sea Battle, so I guess that's good.

From there, I got my orders to go aboard the Tennessee. I went on it in the month of December nineteen and forty-two, and I stayed on it one year, then I was transferred to the Quincey, which was a heavy cruiser, and I went aboard it one year later. That was in December of forty-three. And then I stayed on it until the end of the war.

And I was in Tokyo and at France. I was at France, we made both D-Day at Normandy, and then also after that, we took Roosevelt to the Crimean. Our ship took Roosevelt to the Crimean Conference if you knew about that.

That was when Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin met at Yalta. And his daughter went. We picked up him and his daughter and took them to the Crimean Conference, but now, we never did get to see him. And do you know why? He was very ill. When we took him back, we got back in February, and he passed away in April.

After the conference was over and Roosevelt and his daughter returned to the ship, Stalin and Churchill came aboard our ship for about four hours.

I was assistant engineering officer on the destroyer, boiler room division on the battleship, and I was assistant engineer on the Quincy, then when I was promoted to Commander, then I went to head of the engineering department.

Now this is an interesting thing. On all of my ships, we only had two deaths.

One was on the battleship, we carried one plane and they had these catapults, and we were at Guadalcanal, no, we were at Tarawa, so when we took the island at Tarawa, they wanted him to go and guide us, and when they put the pilot in the plane on the catapult, and as they were turning around, somebody made a mistake, and the plane fell off and fell in the ocean, and you know, we never did find that pilot. We never did find that pilot.

That was the first one, and then the second one was in my department. We were in the South Pacific, and he got overheated in the engine room and he requested to go up to the main deck and no one went with him. I know what he did, he went by a water cooler and he glutted himself and passed out and died, and we buried him at sea. And that's the only two deaths that we had.

I told my brother that he should have paid the Navy. He was at Pearl Harbor and stayed there the whole time. I said, you should have paid them instead of them paying you. And my cousin that joined up at the same time, he never left the States. So here I was, the youngest of the three of us, and they drug me kicking and screaming, and I was the first one to be called up.

On my one ten day liberty, I married Charlotte Miller on the twelfth day of September nineteen and forty-four _ smack kadab in the middle of the war. She was a school teacher too. The first date I ever had in my life was with Charlotte Miller. I was sixteen, and she was thirteen. We never got to have much time together until after the war, but I thought about her all the time. I never told anyone this, but we never had one argument. We had fifty-three years together before she died.

Interview with Bunny Wayne Chambers
Born April 24, 1915 De Leon, Texas
About his World War II experiences
As told to Rusty Macon Weber on October 19, 2003

© Rusty Macon Weber
Wetumpka, Elmore County, Alabama
Conversation exactly as told by Bunny Wayne Chambers.

Published by U.S. Legacies April 04

Copyright © US Legacies 1996-2024

 

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